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By: sqlfrndz

sqlfrndz — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:56:36 +0000

The Hidden tiger is in White..Ha :-)

By: Prasad Dabbada

Prasad Dabbada — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:25:18 +0000

Puzzle1: “THE HIDDEN TIGER” is written on the body of the tiger

Puzzle2: Here we have disabled the login not the user, I think that is the reason we are not seeing that red down arrow mark on the user.

By: Raushan

Raushan — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:56:16 +0000

Puzzle 1 :
2nd “TIGER”.. is written on the body of the tiger.

Puzzle 2 :
As we’ve created a “user” and associated it with “login”. Now after disabling the “login”, “user” is still present there but that particular “login” is not authorized for this “user” (as we’ve disabled the “login”).

By: pinaldave

pinaldave — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:38:26 +0000

Thank you sir!

By: Neil Hambly

Neil Hambly — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:53:15 +0000

Pinal
Nice simple puzzle for No.2 answer is that it is a “SQL User without login” what is also known as “loginless” user.. so you can’t authenticate with i but can revert to using it as for its security rights

By: Raju R

Raju R — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 05:01:04 +0000

Typo mistake , you cant login to the server until you enable the login

By: Raju R

Raju R — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 05:00:01 +0000

If we disable the login then user associated with that particular login will be automatically get disabled, so you can login into the server until you enable the login. You can see the RED MARK in login.

Logins are server level & users or only database level.

By: Debesh P Lohani

Debesh P Lohani — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:44:48 +0000

Puzzle 1: Clearly written on the stripes of the standing tiger looking at us.

Puzzle 2:
Because, you have disabled login level access but not disable the database level access.

Red arrow not showing in
database–> security–>user,

But red arrow shown in
server–>security–>user

By: Ramdas

Ramdas — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:01:54 +0000

Puzzle 1: The Hidden tiger is on the stripes of the tigers body.

By: Naqui Ahmed

Naqui Ahmed — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 13:01:31 +0000

Got the solution..

Changed the access to “Full Control” of the drive…
and it’s working perfectly….

Thanks…

By: yangamuniprasad

yangamuniprasad — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:17:01 +0000

Puzzle 1 : The hidden Tiger is Written on the body… please see carefully it’s written on stripes ” THE HIDDEN TIGER”…

By: Chandrashekhar Singh

Chandrashekhar Singh — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:51:35 +0000

Hi Pinal,
Puzzl1 Reply:- keyword “THE HIDDEN TIGER” is written on the Tiger’s body near it’s neck.
Puzzl2:- The user log in is disbled but still there is an schema (called dbo)associated with that user. Once we go that schema and ‘View the database permissions we can find that the Connect permission is granted. If we go and uncheck that Grant- connect ,it will show the downwards Red-Arrow.
Regards,
Chandrashekhar
MSBI Consultant

By: Kaushik

Kaushik — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:22:06 +0000

the red arrow mark means the login for corresponding user does not exist

By: Naqui Ahmed

Naqui Ahmed — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:14:00 +0000

Can anyone please help for the below code…
I’m trying to move a file from C:\ to D:\
but I’m getting an output as “Access is denied.”
I’ve configured “xp_cmdshel” value to 1

BEGIN
declare @FileName varchar(150)
declare @sql varchar(500)
set @FileName = ‘Test.txt’
set @sql = ‘MOVE C:\’ + @FileName + ‘ D:\’
EXEC master..xp_cmdshell @sql
End

By: Nimesh Parikh

Nimesh Parikh — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:57:12 +0000

Hello Sir,
I am staying in Flat and we have a common parking. everyone has key for parking gate, whom so ever like late long driving can open parking gate, move their bike/car out and close it. :) Do you think if some one change the lock of parking gate, I will not be able to open my car/bike?

I think in SQL Server, User and Login both are different entities. Login is more kind of Authorization (on server front [similar like key of parking gate]) where as Users are more like Authentication (on server front [similar to key of your bike/car]). We can link different Users to same Login for accessing different database.

Disabling a Login will stop people to connect to database but User will not affect from it.

Happy New Year & Cheers!!!

By: Hemanth

Hemanth — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:52:33 +0000

I found the hidden tiger. Nice one…

By: sanjeev

sanjeev — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:36:40 +0000

Dear Dave,

It worked for me. i mean i haveexecuted all your commnad as its & showing red down arrow mark.did i do anything wrong?

Regards,
Sanjeev Kumar

By: Vinay Kumar

Vinay Kumar — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:24:55 +0000

Puzzle 2 ans :

Login are require for authorization. User are created with login.
When we diable the login, its show red mark on it. Due to this nobody can get login in sql server or connection string.
But different databases can access objects because user is not disable.

By: shubhangi patil

shubhangi patil — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:41:33 +0000

Puzzle 2 ans :

Because, you have disabled login level access but not disable the database level access.

Red arrow not showing in
database–> security–>user,

But red arrow shown in
server–>security–>user

By: shubhangi patil

shubhangi patil — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:40:10 +0000

Puzzle 2 ans :

Because of you have disabled login access but not disable the database access level. Red arrow not showing in

database–> security–>user,
But red arrow shown in

server–>security–>user
because you have disable the login level access.

By: Ram

Ram — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:37:21 +0000

Puzzle 1 : The hidden Tiger is Written on the tigers body……..

By: shubhangi patil

shubhangi patil — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:26:55 +0000

Puzzle 2 ans: Hi sir, i read u r post & do follow all steps u r mention above & in my case it shows Red-Arrow pointing downwards. as this is a puzzle question so i guess u have taken this screen shot before refreshing the SSMS window .

Bcoze after refreshing it display arrow.

By: shubhangi patil

shubhangi patil — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 07:03:26 +0000

Puzzle 1 ans : The hidden Tiger is Written on the tigers body……..

By: Chahar

Chahar — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 06:40:22 +0000

Tiger is behind the first left tree